Where exactly is the Sign located?? I live in Jacksonville, approximately at the location of where the battle took place (Hwy 21 about 2.5-3 miles south of town, across from RMC Hospital and near where Whites Gap Road intersects with Hwy 21); Tallaseehatchee Creek actually runs right behind my house. Wondering if my private land is where the battle, or part of it, occurred.
How could our Native ancestors possibly fight the fire power of the army. I pray Andrew Jackson is burning in the devils he’ll today – this was America’s holocaust
Update from further research: The historical marker is actually about 10-12 miles away (as the crow flies) from the actual site of the battle; the marker is on US Hwy 431 at mile marker 244, just north of Alexandria. The battle site is to the east on private lands, across from RMC-Jacksonville Hospital off AL Hwy 21 at 2.5 miles south of the Jacksonville downtown Square; this is where the village was, at the headwaters of Tallasseehatchee Creek.
However according to Historical Marker Database (https://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?MarkerID=36554) there is a stone tablet in Alexandria off of Hwy 144, not far from the Hwy 431 marker, that was erected by Daughters of American Revolution on the one-hundred year anniversary of the battle (11-3-1913).
Ms. Causey, if you read these comments, can you clarify on this information? Where did you get your info on the location being 3 miles southwest of Jacksonville?
Attn: Ms. Donna Causey, The historical marker shown is on US Hwy 431 at mile marker 244, just north of Alexandria, AL. The battle site described in this article is 10-12 miles to the east off AL Hwy 21 on private lands, across from RMC-Jacksonville Hospital at 2.5 miles south of the Jacksonville downtown Square; as you are saying, this is supposedly where the village was, at the headwaters of Tallasseehatchee Creek.
However according to the Historical Marker Database (https://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?MarkerID=36554) there is a stone tablet in Alexandria off of Hwy 144,(not far from the Hwy 431 marker) that was erected by Daughters of American Revolution (Anniston, AL) on the one-hundred year anniversary of the battle (11-3-1913).
Ms. Causey, can you comment on this information? In your research for this article from your book Alabama Footprints: Confrontation (pg 63), where did you get your info on the location of Tallasseehatchee village being 3 miles southwest of Jacksonville at the headwaters of the creek by the same name? I happen to live on the land in Jacksonville which you are describing, but I am confused by the DAR marker located in Alexandria. I appreciate any clarification and help you can shed on this.
Hi Stephen. I don’t know anything about the marker but the source for the transcribed information in the article is from History of Alabama and Dictionary Biography, Volume II, 1921 by Thomas McAdory Owen who founded the Alabama Department of Archives and History. This excerpt is from his description of the Battle of Tallaseehatchee. “The army now had reached Ten Islands on the Coosa River, and Gen. Jackson began planning the erection of Fort Strother. Gen. Coffee was directed to advance on Tallaseehatchee with 920 men. He was accompanied .by Richard Brown and a company of Creeks and Cherokees. The town was situated near the head of the creek of that name, about three miles southwest of Jacksonville, It had about 100 families, and a fighting force of 120 warriors, had only recently been increased by 300 warriors, brought together from the towns below, making an Indian force of 420 fighting men. Gen. Coffee surrounded the town about sunrise of November 3. The engagement was swift and bloody. Not an Indian asked to be spared. There is some discrepancy in the accounts of those engaged, but the Indian killed were 186 warriors who were counted, and 18 Indian women. A number were never counted. Some escaped, and fled toward Oakfushee. Gen. Coffee’s losses were five killed and 41 wounded. Eighty-four women and children, and fourteen hopelessly crippled warriors were taken prisoners. The prisoners were sent to Huntsville.”
Hey Donna, thanks so much for your response and explanation. Interesting that DAR put the marker up in 1913 and just eight years later, Mr. Owen wrote his article. I guess sometimes one of the most difficult tasks in historical research is determining the exact location of these “smaller” battles, from a time when maps were crude and distinguishing landmarks were few and the account was usually written weeks, or months (or years?) after the occurrence. Sad the we probably can’t determine exactly from where Mr. Owen got his research. Guess this will have to relinquished to one of “history’s mysteries”.
The sign for the battle is not at the actual site which is on private land. Some new evidence points to a massacre instead of a battle.
Where exactly is the Sign located?? I live in Jacksonville, approximately at the location of where the battle took place (Hwy 21 about 2.5-3 miles south of town, across from RMC Hospital and near where Whites Gap Road intersects with Hwy 21); Tallaseehatchee Creek actually runs right behind my house. Wondering if my private land is where the battle, or part of it, occurred.
The land I live on is haunted….truthfully.
You didn’t finish the story !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What?
I would also like information on where the village was actually located if anyone knows.Thanks
Thanks for sharing this informative post
How could our Native ancestors possibly fight the fire power of the army. I pray Andrew Jackson is burning in the devils he’ll today – this was America’s holocaust
I agree with. Marie. I am a creek decendent
No doubt that he is. For what he did to the Native Americans, he will be tormented in Hell for eternity!
Colin Nelson
Im gonna go see this tomorrow
Colin Nelson….did you go?? which site??
Update from further research: The historical marker is actually about 10-12 miles away (as the crow flies) from the actual site of the battle; the marker is on US Hwy 431 at mile marker 244, just north of Alexandria. The battle site is to the east on private lands, across from RMC-Jacksonville Hospital off AL Hwy 21 at 2.5 miles south of the Jacksonville downtown Square; this is where the village was, at the headwaters of Tallasseehatchee Creek.
However according to Historical Marker Database (https://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?MarkerID=36554) there is a stone tablet in Alexandria off of Hwy 144, not far from the Hwy 431 marker, that was erected by Daughters of American Revolution on the one-hundred year anniversary of the battle (11-3-1913).
Ms. Causey, if you read these comments, can you clarify on this information? Where did you get your info on the location being 3 miles southwest of Jacksonville?
Attn: Ms. Donna Causey, The historical marker shown is on US Hwy 431 at mile marker 244, just north of Alexandria, AL. The battle site described in this article is 10-12 miles to the east off AL Hwy 21 on private lands, across from RMC-Jacksonville Hospital at 2.5 miles south of the Jacksonville downtown Square; as you are saying, this is supposedly where the village was, at the headwaters of Tallasseehatchee Creek.
However according to the Historical Marker Database (https://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?MarkerID=36554) there is a stone tablet in Alexandria off of Hwy 144,(not far from the Hwy 431 marker) that was erected by Daughters of American Revolution (Anniston, AL) on the one-hundred year anniversary of the battle (11-3-1913).
Ms. Causey, can you comment on this information? In your research for this article from your book Alabama Footprints: Confrontation (pg 63), where did you get your info on the location of Tallasseehatchee village being 3 miles southwest of Jacksonville at the headwaters of the creek by the same name? I happen to live on the land in Jacksonville which you are describing, but I am confused by the DAR marker located in Alexandria. I appreciate any clarification and help you can shed on this.
Hi Stephen. I don’t know anything about the marker but the source for the transcribed information in the article is from History of Alabama and Dictionary Biography, Volume II, 1921 by Thomas McAdory Owen who founded the Alabama Department of Archives and History. This excerpt is from his description of the Battle of Tallaseehatchee. “The army now had reached Ten Islands on the Coosa River, and Gen. Jackson began planning the erection of Fort Strother. Gen. Coffee was directed to advance on Tallaseehatchee with 920 men. He was accompanied .by Richard Brown and a company of Creeks and Cherokees. The town was situated near the head of the creek of that name, about three miles southwest of Jacksonville, It had about 100 families, and a fighting force of 120 warriors, had only recently been increased by 300 warriors, brought together from the towns below, making an Indian force of 420 fighting men. Gen. Coffee surrounded the town about sunrise of November 3. The engagement was swift and bloody. Not an Indian asked to be spared. There is some discrepancy in the accounts of those engaged, but the Indian killed were 186 warriors who were counted, and 18 Indian women. A number were never counted. Some escaped, and fled toward Oakfushee. Gen. Coffee’s losses were five killed and 41 wounded. Eighty-four women and children, and fourteen hopelessly crippled warriors were taken prisoners. The prisoners were sent to Huntsville.”
Hey Donna, thanks so much for your response and explanation. Interesting that DAR put the marker up in 1913 and just eight years later, Mr. Owen wrote his article. I guess sometimes one of the most difficult tasks in historical research is determining the exact location of these “smaller” battles, from a time when maps were crude and distinguishing landmarks were few and the account was usually written weeks, or months (or years?) after the occurrence. Sad the we probably can’t determine exactly from where Mr. Owen got his research. Guess this will have to relinquished to one of “history’s mysteries”.